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Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

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Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

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Cassius Marcellus Clay (/ˈkæʃəs ˌmɑːrˈsɛləs/; October 19, 1810 – July 22, 1903), nicknamed the "Lion of White Hall", was a Kentucky planter, politician, and emancipationist who worked for the abolition of slavery. He freed the slaves that were handed down as his inheritance from his father. Those freed slaves were allowed to stay and were paid a wage. He was a founding member of the Republican Party in Kentucky, and was appointed by President Abraham Lincoln as the United States minister to Russia. Clay is credited with gaining Russian support for the Union during the American Civil War.

Det er måske ikke så vildt, men hans politiske liv gav ham “oplevelser”.
His anti-slavery activism earned him violent enemies. During a political debate in 1843, he survived an assassination attempt by Sam Brown, a hired gun. The scabbard of Clay's Bowie knife was tipped with silver, and in jerking the Bowie knife out in retaliation pulled this scabbard up so that it was just over his heart. Sam Brown's bullet struck the scabbard, and embedded itself in the silver. Despite being shot in the chest, Clay drew his Bowie knife, tackled Brown, cut out his eyes, and finally threw him over an embankment.[7][8]
In 1845, Clay began publishing an anti-slavery newspaper, True American, in Lexington, Kentucky. Within a month he received death threats, had to arm himself, and regularly barricaded the armored doors of his newspaper office for protection, besides setting up two four-pounder cannons inside.
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Clay served in the Mexican–American War as a captain with the 1st Kentucky Cavalry from 1846 to 1847. He opposed the annexation of Texas and expansion of slavery into the Southwest. While making a speech for abolition in 1849, Clay was attacked by the six Turner brothers, who beat, stabbed and tried to shoot him. In the ensuing fight, Clay fought off all six and, using his Bowie knife, killed Cyrus Turner.[8]
..... og der var han så ikke engang nået til borgerkrigen og tjenesten i Rusland.
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Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_M ... olitician)

Cassius Marcellus Clay (/ˈkæʃəs ˌmɑːrˈsɛləs/; October 19, 1810 – July 22, 1903), nicknamed the "Lion of White Hall", was a Kentucky planter, politician, and emancipationist who worked for the abolition of slavery. He freed the slaves that were handed down as his inheritance from his father. Those freed slaves were allowed to stay and were paid a wage. He was a founding member of the Republican Party in Kentucky, and was appointed by President Abraham Lincoln as the United States minister to Russia. Clay is credited with gaining Russian support for the Union during the American Civil War.

Det er måske ikke så vildt, men hans politiske liv gav ham “oplevelser”.
His anti-slavery activism earned him violent enemies. During a political debate in 1843, he survived an assassination attempt by Sam Brown, a hired gun. The scabbard of Clay's Bowie knife was tipped with silver, and in jerking the Bowie knife out in retaliation pulled this scabbard up so that it was just over his heart. Sam Brown's bullet struck the scabbard, and embedded itself in the silver. Despite being shot in the chest, Clay drew his Bowie knife, tackled Brown, cut out his eyes, and finally threw him over an embankment.[7][8]
In 1845, Clay began publishing an anti-slavery newspaper, True American, in Lexington, Kentucky. Within a month he received death threats, had to arm himself, and regularly barricaded the armored doors of his newspaper office for protection, besides setting up two four-pounder cannons inside.
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Clay served in the Mexican–American War as a captain with the 1st Kentucky Cavalry from 1846 to 1847. He opposed the annexation of Texas and expansion of slavery into the Southwest. While making a speech for abolition in 1849, Clay was attacked by the six Turner brothers, who beat, stabbed and tried to shoot him. In the ensuing fight, Clay fought off all six and, using his Bowie knife, killed Cyrus Turner.[8]
..... og der var han så ikke engang nået til borgerkrigen og tjenesten i Rusland.
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Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

Indlæg af Refraktorius » 14. jan 2020, 08:24

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Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_M ... olitician)

... og der var han så ikke engang nået til borgerkrigen og tjenesten i Rusland.
Imponerende, men i Jokes, & Sjove Indslag?
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Re: Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

Indlæg af Lassescout » 4. feb 2020, 21:18

Jeg husker at Muhammad Ali før han tog et muslimsk navn hed Cassius Clay. Han var nok opkaldt.
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Re: Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

Indlæg af Kalthoff » 5. feb 2020, 01:41

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Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!
Så absolut en beundringsværdig herre.

Tillad mig at kommentere historien ud fra den nutidige danske lovgivning og retspraksis:
His anti-slavery activism earned him violent enemies. During a political debate in 1843, he survived an assassination attempt by Sam Brown, a hired gun. The scabbard of Clay's Bowie knife was tipped with silver, and in jerking the Bowie knife out in retaliation pulled this scabbard up so that it was just over his heart. Sam Brown's bullet struck the scabbard, and embedded itself in the silver. Despite being shot in the chest, Clay drew his Bowie knife, tackled Brown, cut out his eyes, and finally threw him over an embankment.
Er Cassius Marcellus Clays reaktion proportional med faren for liv og førlighed eller kan den undskyldes med "den i øjeblikket fremkaldte ophidselse"?

Var han virkeligt tvunget til at udøve vold for at redde livet, eller var der en mulighed for at flygte i stedet?

Formentligt nej til begge spørgsmål, så her får Cassius Marcellus Clay en dom for vold.

Havde han et anerkendelsesværdigt formål med at bære den Bowie-kniv til et politisk møde?

Næppe, så han får også en dom for overtrædelse af våbenloven.
In 1845, Clay began publishing an anti-slavery newspaper, True American, in Lexington, Kentucky. Within a month he received death threats, had to arm himself, and regularly barricaded the armored doors of his newspaper office for protection, besides setting up two four-pounder cannons inside.
At bevæbne sig selv med selvforsvar for øje er klart strafbart.

Så her indkasserer Cassius Marcellus Clay en straf for overtrædelse af våbenloven. Det er anden gang han overtræder våbenloven, så han slipper ikke med en mindre bøde denne gang.
Clay served in the Mexican–American War as a captain with the 1st Kentucky Cavalry from 1846 to 1847. He opposed the annexation of Texas and expansion of slavery into the Southwest. While making a speech for abolition in 1849, Clay was attacked by the six Turner brothers, who beat, stabbed and tried to shoot him. In the ensuing fight, Clay fought off all six and, using his Bowie knife, killed Cyrus Turner.[8]
Med en dom for vold og to domme for overtrædelser af våbenloven, kan Cassius Marcellus Clay ikke vandels- og sikkerheds-godkendes til militærtjeneste.

Så Cassius Marcellus Clay må blive hjemme i vanære, imedens andre høster ære på slagmarken.

Fordi han ikke deltog i krigen the Mexican–American War, glider han ud af "det gode selskab" og der sker derfor ikke mere bemærkelsesværdigt i hans liv.

På et tidspunkt bliver han igen overfaldet af en af sine tidligere fjender fra første del af historien. Han forsvarer sig og kommer for en dommer endnu engang.

Med flere domme for vold og ulovlig våbenbesiddelse bag sig, sender dommeren ham i fængsel.
..... og der var han så ikke engang nået til borgerkrigen og tjenesten i Rusland.
I fængslet kan han så høre om Borgerkrigen, mens de små børn spytter på ham ind igennem tremmerne i kachotten.

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Re: Cassius Marcellus Clay Falder absolut i kategorien af historisk bad-ass!

Indlæg af Refraktorius » 5. feb 2020, 08:16

Kalthoff skrev:
5. feb 2020, 01:41
...en gang vrøvl...
Hvis det var forsøg på humor, så fejlede det og kom ud som en langstrakt klynken.
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